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Lyssie ([personal profile] fuyu) wrote in [community profile] shamelesshookery2012-02-23 11:44 am
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[open mingle post for whatever threads you wanna do

GO NUTS GUYS]
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I never said that it wasn't. However, that does not answer my question.

[...she did say they were intelligent. perhaps it would be more efficient if he asked them directly :|a]
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Any enjoyment or lack thereof is irrelevant and inconsequential.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
That is a matter of opinion. I collect data on such things; therefore, for my purposes it is neither.

[turning to the Pokemon] Would either of you be willing to answering my question?
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
[Crobat doesn't respond, but Sneasel's lookin' at you like you're a little slow.]

"Such things"? Elaborate.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
[...interesting, that's somewhat similar to a human expression. filing that away]

Emotions. I collect information on emotional states in different beings, primarily humans. If given further opportunities of this nature I will likely also focus on other sentient beings.
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
[Her first reflex is "that is dumb and whoever built you with that purpose is dumb."

But on second thought, a study of emotions from a one hundred percent unemotional viewpoint could prove very educational. Not that she could help it along, but she, and the world, could certainly benefit.
]

I see. My apologies, I am unable to assist you in this research.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
[whoever said he was built with that purpose?]

Why not? You are human, correct?
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I have chosen to cast aside emotions. They are the source of the universe's strife, fleeting and meaningless in the end.

However, the world as it stands does not realize the truth. Your research could prove beneficial to remedy this.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
[...blinks]

Your assumptions are incorrect.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Firstly, strife is present among all forms of life, even among organisms too simplified to have the nervous system required to sustain emotion. While emotions are a transitory phenomenon, they are not a requirement for conflict; they are only what allow it to cause "suffering."

Second, large sections of humanity are already aware that certain types of emotion are conductive to conflict. Several existing religions and philosophies seek to control those emotions through various means with the goal of reducing such struggles.

Lastly, the majority of my research has provided evidence that emotion is beneficial, and a requirement for progress in all sentient beings I have so far had contact with. This is in direct opposition to your expectations.
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
My choice of wording was poor. You are correct, emotions enable suffering.

While religions have sought to reduce these struggles, they have, at large, been unsuccessful. It is not enough to take control of emotions, as they are, by nature, illogical and obstinate. The only logical course of action is to remove them entirely.

You cannot see this because it is not yet present in order to be observed. Humans are, as the stand, incomplete. They are unable to reach their true potential due to the suffering of the majority brought upon by "negative" emotions, along with "positive" emotions claiming they make their suffering and the suffering of many others acceptable and excusable.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
[considering this]

...This is true. I cannot observe a human society without emotion. I am capable of observing myself; but while I am sentient, my thought processes do not match that of a human's.

However... You are human, and you claim to have given up your own emotions. If that is so, then please tell me this: what is your motivation?
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
My motivation is to create a new, complete world where emotions are nonexistent.

Perfection.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
...Perhaps my choice of wording was poor this time. If you have no emotions, then why do you desire this?
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
[It actually takes her a moment to respond this time. This was one of the questions she's been asked considerably less, what with the only people privy to her true ultimatum able to be counted on one...finger.

She was surprisingly okay about the robot knowing. Though this tainted world caused it to be just a bit misguided, it was the closest thing to perfection she's come across in her lifetime.
]

I possess emotions. They are, however, recognized for the hindrance they are and kept consciously suppressed.

[Yes, she's aware that didn't fully answer the question.]
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
[...deliberately obtuse, rather than just unintelligent, then. her admission just confirms that.]

Not perfectly, obviously. You would have no reason to withhold information if you did not "care" about my knowing on some level. In addition, I do not believe you would desire anything at all.
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Even a being incapable of "desire" would recognize faults in need of correcting.
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
I am a being incapable of desire. If it weren't for a directive assigned to me after my creation, I would have no reason to attempt to fix faults, or do much of anything at all.
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
You would not recognize and seek to correct an error within your system?
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[personal profile] heart_hidden_in_binary 2012-02-28 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
[thinking that over. would he, if he had no directive to see to the well-being of his sister? it's a little difficult to process past the immediate conflict; even if it's just a theoretical scenario, such an error could cause him to act erratically. even if he did not hurt her directly by doing so, discovery of it could cause emotional distress. that would be a violation of his purpose.

but if there was no directive to be violated...?
]

... I would not, unless the drive to do so were specifically programmed into me.
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[personal profile] starrynewworld 2012-02-28 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
...Perhaps I have overlooked a significant difference between mechanical and living beings. Living beings are born with "programming" to survive. Humans are capable of recognizing their need for improvement and to better their chances for survival. Even without "desire", that would not change. If an error is present, it must be removed. It is not a matter of emotional drive.